tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post4945008512717005748..comments2024-03-17T00:23:24.896-07:00Comments on Social Democracy for the 21st Century: A Realist Alternative to the Modern Left: Behold Third Wave FeminismLord Keyneshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-37582237541748720362016-09-09T05:48:44.369-07:002016-09-09T05:48:44.369-07:00Well you could come close to that. Some think the ...Well you could come close to that. Some think the 19th amendment should be repealed, and that men are better off using prostitutes than getting married. Eventually you get women with less reason to educate themselves and sexual utilitarianism begins to increase.Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11890229869783893118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-37002300661631227852016-09-08T14:30:47.212-07:002016-09-08T14:30:47.212-07:00Really? Men's Right Movement proposing consent...Really? Men's Right Movement proposing consentration camps and checking women out of those camps like books? Kristjanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09592440548093816331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-35572972488501540952016-09-08T13:23:36.312-07:002016-09-08T13:23:36.312-07:00In many regards, MGTOW seems to me to be the male ...In many regards, MGTOW seems to me to be the male version of "Separatist Feminism", with different adjectives. Most likely, MGTOW isn't nearly as popular as it's made out to be, as is the case with Separatist Feminism (albeit, SF has been around awhile).<br /><br />I would definitely like to see Academic scholars linking these new ideological movements with the rise of "Narcissism" in our culture. It would make sense to me anyways, as I see Feminism contain many narcissistic characteristics, but moreover have seen it in some ways be co-opted by people who seem quite narcissistic (Rebecca Watson complaining about "getting asked for coffee", Anita Sarkeesian and her non-trivial lies, or asking for donations almost immediately after she supposedly receives some "death threats".). In some regards it parallels to religion, whose worst members also happen to be narcissists that want to take advantage of its guilt-prone flock, and to seek high status.<br /><br />Then you look at some of the Alt-righters and see basically the same thing. Ever heard about RooshV?Kainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09841689865415250256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-61203998298154261682016-09-08T12:38:04.210-07:002016-09-08T12:38:04.210-07:00"If you read their literature you get the pro..."If you read their literature you get the profound sense that many of these people are deeply frustrated by personal problems and find solace in conspiracy theories involving their supposed enemies. Having romantic problems or problems at work? It must be the evil feminist conspiracy or the Patriarchy keeping me down. "<br /><br />That might me if you are talking about some ignorant masses. Feminism is a bogus theory that seems to dominate in universities now. I don't want to say that all feminism has always been bad but the third wave seems to be generally blowing things out of proportions. There are so many assumptions in It that are totally false. Like we have rape culture, and so many percantages of women are sexually assualted while in college. Those numbers are usually bogus and if you ask me, we don't have rape culture in Western societies. Rape is not only punished by Courts but generally people are very when a girl gets raped somewhere. I have never met men who approve rape in a workplace or anywhere else. In fact if you blow it with women, you should be ashemed of yourself, even embaraśsed, thet's the message. If we had rape culture, don't you think I would have met thse kinds of men somewhere? These are the feminist tactics, to push this vicitmhood idea and this is just one example. Karen Straughan does a good job debunking feminism. Kristjanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09592440548093816331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-9700090233029145222016-09-08T12:30:49.700-07:002016-09-08T12:30:49.700-07:00Gary on top form:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-...Gary on top form:<br /><br />https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/08/aleppo-gary-johnson-syria-war-questionRandomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04445772572707818311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-50469526057827940052016-09-08T12:28:51.407-07:002016-09-08T12:28:51.407-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Randomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04445772572707818311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-65766108679044599412016-09-08T11:48:06.490-07:002016-09-08T11:48:06.490-07:00There's a whole contingent of the so-called &q...There's a whole contingent of the so-called "Men's Rights Movement" and of MGTOW that sounds exactly like that, especially the last sentence. Just replace "men" with "women" and delete the attack on heteros, and you have a Masculine-based version of Atlas Shrugged.<br /><br />Color me Bored With It All.Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11890229869783893118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-67138012996653124402016-09-08T10:45:37.874-07:002016-09-08T10:45:37.874-07:00I agree. I get the sense that both the Alt-Right a...I agree. I get the sense that both the Alt-Right and Regressive Left overemphasize "the personal is the political." If you read their literature you get the profound sense that many of these people are deeply frustrated by personal problems and find solace in conspiracy theories involving their supposed enemies. Having romantic problems or problems at work? It must be the evil feminist conspiracy or the Patriarchy keeping me down. <br /><br />Politicizing all personal problems seems very popular these days. Every personal setback is now the fault of some "conspiracy." I think it is a sign of the increasing narcissism in society. <br /><br />At least with economic issues there is some degree of reality regarding the interests involved. Conflicts between business and labor have a stronger basis in reality than conspiracy theories about the Patriarchy or International Jewry. <br />Tiberius Gracchusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-20674519464078204562016-09-08T09:26:00.711-07:002016-09-08T09:26:00.711-07:00In many ways, the Alt-right is a mirror image of t...In many ways, the Alt-right is a mirror image of the regressive left. Some are radical/reactionary and are absolutely nuts. Some are more moderate and reasoned, but still mostly on the wrong side of many issues. I assume there may be some Alt righters that are open to what a Realist Left has to say. But certainly not the extremists.Kainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09841689865415250256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-77685015960384972512016-09-08T08:58:23.266-07:002016-09-08T08:58:23.266-07:00I wonder why you would even imagine it's a jok...I wonder why you would even imagine it's a joke. Because it's too crazy as a serious proposal? It doesn't have to be a serious policy proposal to function as an expression of disgust and enmity, which is evidently its purpose.Ken Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12976919713907046171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-18142867328638905232016-09-08T05:59:24.797-07:002016-09-08T05:59:24.797-07:00Depends on how representative Bindel is of third-w...Depends on how representative Bindel is of third-wave feminism.<br /><br />I would argue "not very". The views she espouses here are fringe and not echoed by most other third-wave feminists--thence the 'radical' moniker.<br /><br />You also have to understand that third-wave feminism is far less homogenous than first or second-wave feminism. In it feminism has fractured into a diverse set of factions, all with different interests, goals, and views on how to achieve them. Even amongst this diverse set, though, Bindel's views are pretty rare.<br /><br />I read Bindel as just a pure polemicist--she's more interested in trying to stir the pot and piss people off than anything else. A lot of 'radical' types are like that--whether it's the radical right, radical left, etc. It's rather childish if you ask me--far easy to do that than to engage with the real world and make real proposals for achievable change.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-90393546406659489442016-09-08T05:43:16.950-07:002016-09-08T05:43:16.950-07:00All the lesbian ideologues hate men with the same ...All the lesbian ideologues hate men with the same passion that a hardcore racist hates their chosen race - like passionately, to an extent that they would genuinely like to injure, imprison and attack them. It's crazy obvious when you listen to them.<br /><br />The average feminist is not as bad generally. They don't actually hate men and want to dehumanise them in the same way. But they tend to be pretty bad regardless.TheIllusionisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17642837989235595346noreply@blogger.com