tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post2773403454581700018..comments2024-03-28T17:08:15.784-07:00Comments on Social Democracy for the 21st Century: A Realist Alternative to the Modern Left: Karl Marx’s Life 1845–1849Lord Keyneshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-10327994572936840562015-04-27T01:45:37.888-07:002015-04-27T01:45:37.888-07:00In terms of "The Poverty of Philosophy",...In terms of "The Poverty of Philosophy", it is a disgraceful work. Marx invents quotes, tampers with quotes, selectively quotes Proudhon, attributes to him ideas which he does not hold, proclaims certain things so giving the impression that Proudhon does not know it but in fact he does, etc.<br /><br />It is shocking that Marx does -- but since no Marxist (or, apparently, writer on Marx!) bothers to read Proudhon's book this is unknown (and why would a Marxist read it? Marx has proclaimed Proudhon an idiot...)<br /><br />Not to mention that in 1847 Marx attacks Proudhon for using abstractions and building a model -- then, ten years latter, Marx embraces abstraction and model building! So with have Marxists twittering on about how "The Poverty of Philosophy" and its attack on abstraction is brilliant and how "Capital" with its use of abstraction is also brilliant!<br /><br />I could go on about this, but here are a few useful links:<br /><br />The Appendix on Marx from my Proudhon anthology "Property is Theft!"<br />http://anarchism.pageabode.com/pjproudhon/appendix-proudhon-and-marx.html<br /><br />The extracts from "System of Economic Contradictions" have footnotes comparing what Marx says Proudhon said and what he actually wrote:<br />http://anarchism.pageabode.com/pjproudhon/system-of-economic-contradictions-1<br /><br />I'm working on a reply to Marx's dishonest diatribe which I've blogged about recently:<br /><br />http://anarchism.pageabode.com/anarcho/proudhon-marx-labour-notes-wage-labour<br /><br />http://anarchism.pageabode.com/anarcho/engels-housing-question-proudhon<br /><br />In terms of "labour-notes", I must stress that while Marx proclaims that Proudhon advocated them he never once quotes the Frenchman so doing. Sure, he quotes English socialist John Bray but Bray was an advocate of central planning, not a market socialist like Proudhon. Proudhon, in fact, explicitly states that there is no need to replace money with some other system in volume 2 of "System of Economic Contradictions"<br /><br />Also, a good introduction to how Marx later uses Proudhon methodology in 1857 after attacking it in 1847:<br />http://monde-nouveau.net/IMG/pdf/Proudhon_and_German_philosophy.pdf<br /><br />I hope you find this of interest -- suffice to say, Marx' "The Poverty of Philosophy" is not a work of honest polemic. The first published work of Marxism is a distortion, a work of bad faith. Still, as no Marxist would read Proudhon they just do not know.<br /><br />Iain<br />An Anarchist FAQ<br />http://www.anarchistfaq.org.uk<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-57616579683575061282015-04-24T13:12:21.338-07:002015-04-24T13:12:21.338-07:00Worth a look.
http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.23...Worth a look.<br /><br />http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/2550326?uid=2134&uid=380605781&uid=3739696&uid=2&uid=70&uid=3&uid=380605771&uid=3739256&uid=60&sid=21106134944201<br />Philnoreply@blogger.com