tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post8743323132346586006..comments2024-03-28T17:08:15.784-07:00Comments on Social Democracy for the 21st Century: A Realist Alternative to the Modern Left: Another Day, Another AtrocityLord Keyneshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-676781533479372832016-07-20T14:48:52.973-07:002016-07-20T14:48:52.973-07:00I think those terms are problematic because they a...I think those terms are problematic because they are not precise enough to help sorting things out and if possible cool down the discussion over those sensitive subjects. Just as many fuzzy "-isms" do. <br />(Remember the last time you tried to talk some sense into a stubborn conservative who did not want to listen to your documented criticism of neoliberalism and austerity because "collectivism is evil and that's the end of it".)<br />If it means respecting others habits and preferences provided they do not hurt someone else's freedom I think it is plain common sense liberalism. Vegans, muslims, jews, christians (on some days) refuse to eat things I personaly enjoy. No problem. They can even try to persuade me to follow the rules they follow so long as they do not resort to anything else than arguments.<br />If multiculturalism means either<br />a) that citizens of a given country are never entitled to depart from open borders policies<br />b) that what people owe to each other is primarily defined by their so called cultural background so that different backgrounds imply different rights (if for example same sex marriage was restricted to people stemming from secular families)<br />it plainly contradicts a) the basics of democracy b) of the rule of law.<br />Does anyone really stand for that ?GLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04372485857847843352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-35124779897890566992016-07-20T06:48:54.463-07:002016-07-20T06:48:54.463-07:00Cultural leftism is real. So is the ideology of mu...Cultural leftism is real. So is the ideology of multiculturalism. Not sure why you think they're problematic.Lord Keyneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-33081554680381084022016-07-20T06:06:06.345-07:002016-07-20T06:06:06.345-07:00I am quite suspicious of expressions like "cu...I am quite suspicious of expressions like "cultural leftism" "multiculturalism"... may be what they refer to and why it is wrong is clear in the anglo-saxon world but to me it is a kind of bogeyman people invoke when they want to express contempt towards entire "communities" without being criticized for their dangerous lack of precision. <br />As to the many political failures behind the success of those attacks, austerity (which has a clear cut definition) should not be forgotten : for months dedicated public servants like the judge Marc Trevidic warned that they had not enough staff to defuse all the threats, so did intelligence officers . Unfortunately no one cared to listen to their demand and proposals, at least among those in power.<br />Vague cultural considerations and rhetoric about "western values" and blabla should not prevent us from seeing the main issues, namely :<br />- ill conceived NATO war mongering in the middle east (isis is a direct byproduct of the collapse of the irakian state after US invasion)<br />- immoral and dangerous alliance with wahabite regimes from the gulf<br />- insufficient funding and may be unfunctionnal organisation of our security agencies (with a high tech fetishism which is under harsh criticism from many an intelligence specialist)<br />- unemployment in particular for young / unskilled workers (who often happen to be immigrants children)<br />(That being said I am totally opposed to open borders policies but mainly on plain economical grounds)<br />For those who can read french here is an interesting piece of analysis :<br />http://www.medelu.org/Nice-et-apres-Pour-une-reponseGLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04372485857847843352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-33583051600795643562016-07-17T11:06:54.898-07:002016-07-17T11:06:54.898-07:00AFAIK, to call something an act of terrorism would...AFAIK, to call something an act of terrorism would imply political motivation, or any motive for that matter. Is that the case here?<br /><br />Or are we calling it terrorism because of the ethnicity of the perpetrator?Onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08326816833936092845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-21312054477329632532016-07-16T02:13:22.260-07:002016-07-16T02:13:22.260-07:00So in this case the first ones to blame is saudi a...So in this case the first ones to blame is saudi arabia and qatar and iran the ones who indeed funded for decades and brainwashed people into radical islamic ideology.<br /><br />Yes NATO intervention been a catalyst but as the arab spring showed it would happen no matter what in the end.disequilibriumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09760922141392402211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-85155030556132339972016-07-15T18:29:15.871-07:002016-07-15T18:29:15.871-07:00(1) Open Borders is indeed insane. Chang has point...<b>(1)</b> Open Borders is indeed insane. Chang has pointed out that there's no true "Free Markets" in any situation that the State regulates immigration. I assume that would be either restrictions or non-restriction, since both politically impact wages. <br /><br /><b>(2)</b> The countries who are causing the refugee problem in the 1st place are the ones who should be the 1st to step up and take in the people feeling that mess OR they should stop being the cause of it to begin with. Sorry/not sorry.<br /><br /><b>(3)</b> Asking about who we're funding & why should be the #1 question in all these situations.Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11890229869783893118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-68903866784809597732016-07-15T11:01:06.506-07:002016-07-15T11:01:06.506-07:00smoothcritical1,
You hit squarely on the problem ...smoothcritical1,<br /><br />You hit squarely on the problem in your last sentence. Part of the reason why little has been done about mass immigration either in Europe or the United States is because the economic elites were largely immune from the negatives of mass immigration. They could afford to live in affluent neighborhoods where they were protected from the negative impact of mass immigration while benefiting from cheap labor. It is no wonder that most regressive leftists are from affluent, educated backgrounds. <br /><br />Alain de Benoist got it right in "Immigration: the Reserve Army of Capital." <br /><br />See: https://archive.org/stream/ImmigrationTheReserveArmyOfCapital/immigration_reserve_army_of_the_capital-anglais_djvu.txt<br /><br />Things may change in Europe, though, if the elites now feel that they too are in danger.<br />Tiberius Gracchusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-90955507806432634062016-07-15T08:18:09.584-07:002016-07-15T08:18:09.584-07:00This is just wrong as daf as the USA goes. The Orl...This is just wrong as daf as the USA goes. The Orlando guy was investigated, other guys on the radar in the US too. France is actually unusually vigilant and forceful in its policing. Cannot speak to Israel or Russia.Ken Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12976919713907046171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-62339917653165412952016-07-15T06:35:57.736-07:002016-07-15T06:35:57.736-07:00Excellent post. The apologetics will be interestin...Excellent post. The apologetics will be interesting, with no guns to blame, but they will flow.<br />I know a lot of leftist virtue signallers who are what I call "two city" types. By which I mean this. We will lose a city to terrorism, via a bomb, or dirty bomb, or bio attack at some point. That will not convince them. They will not be convinced until we lose a second city, if then.<br />If you think this is nuts consider Japan in 1945. One bomb was not enough. The Japanese government was equally divided even after Nagasaki, and it took the emperors intervention. <br />I bet you have some three city posters here. Ken Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12976919713907046171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-70702184858649202112016-07-15T05:26:41.425-07:002016-07-15T05:26:41.425-07:00"I'm pro open borders (i.e., people shoul...<i>"I'm pro open borders (i.e., people should be free to seek a life wherever) but <b>against mass migration of the sort we're seeing.</b>"</i><br /><br />Ah ha. Funny how that works.Lord Keyneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-64289754274568116042016-07-15T05:25:05.189-07:002016-07-15T05:25:05.189-07:00I'm pro open borders (i.e., people should be f...I'm pro open borders (i.e., people should be free to seek a life wherever) but against mass migration of the sort we're seeing. I don't think the latter necessarily follows from the former, though. If anything, the main reason there's a "mass" aspect to it is that for many of these people their place of birth has become virtually unlivable.<br /><br />Considering Europe's role in many of those situations, it seems unthinkably cruel to shut people out now. "You break it, you buy it."<br /><br />(Though in fairness, this would mean the USA should really be doing more to shoulder the burden, too.)Ken Altmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-6572563255682150442016-07-15T05:22:55.873-07:002016-07-15T05:22:55.873-07:00Some more important issues:
1. The man involved h...Some more important issues:<br /><br />1. The man involved had a known criminal record and has been involved in armed attacks before.<br /><br />2. In previous attacks in France and Belgium, the suspects were already monitored by intelligence and suspected to be planning attacks.<br /><br />As much as I hate to say it, there is too much sign of wilful negligence by some European countries about these kind of things. In US, Russia, or Israel, anyone under these suspicions would never to get to carry out their plans. Prateekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15287835907015065883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-17961563737549016082016-07-15T04:54:37.338-07:002016-07-15T04:54:37.338-07:00Who said that social engineering is only have to d...Who said that social engineering is only have to do with left movements?disequilibriumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09760922141392402211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-33069802752729453112016-07-15T04:26:32.170-07:002016-07-15T04:26:32.170-07:00Isn't it part of the plan of creating a soulle...Isn't it part of the plan of creating a soulless consumer society where only individuals matter. <br /><br />That is the basis of neoclassical thought - earn more, buy more, be happy in your own little thought silo. NeilWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11565959939525324309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-22769204486518004842016-07-15T03:25:18.796-07:002016-07-15T03:25:18.796-07:00Yeah it is but its weird that mainstream economist...Yeah it is but its weird that mainstream economist thought about that.<br /><br />And yes at least there is china so all the bad attention go to china hahadisequilibriumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09760922141392402211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-9695886812325789012016-07-15T03:20:03.938-07:002016-07-15T03:20:03.938-07:00"Our central bank since its was led by (stane...<i>"Our central bank since its was led by (stanely fisher currently vice chairman of the fed which is strange for mainstream economist) literaly print shekels and buy with them dollars in order to devalue the shekel "</i><br /><br />Some nice mercantilism at work, Daniel. Nobody would blame you for that. lolLord Keyneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-67207709355798442042016-07-15T03:16:04.750-07:002016-07-15T03:16:04.750-07:00Thats the biggest obstacle of the old left to revi...Thats the biggest obstacle of the old left to revive people think that mainstream economists represent science while they represent the holy gospels of marshal and robert lucas jr.<br /><br />Ohh also i have interesting thing to tell you china is not the only country which manipulate its currenccy.<br /><br />Our central bank since its was led by (stanely fisher currently vice chairman of the fed which is strange for mainstream economist) literaly print shekels and buy with them dollars in order to devalue the shekel (the central bank already bought more than 100 billion dollars with printed shekels).<br /><br />disequilibriumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09760922141392402211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-36105088426394716742016-07-15T02:59:02.483-07:002016-07-15T02:59:02.483-07:00"They support social democratic policies with...<i>"They support social democratic policies without even understand what keyensianism is so sadly the media always brainwash people with deficit hawkary and another neoliberal propaganda."</i><br /><br />Yes! This is a problem everywhere, sadly. A tragedy. Lord Keyneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-38647151823304108522016-07-15T02:51:35.796-07:002016-07-15T02:51:35.796-07:00In israel because where we are living in the middl...In israel because where we are living in the middle east specially after the arab winter (which transformed secular nationalistic divtatorships into radical islamic ones) people here even millenials and even people on the left started slowly but steady to reject left regressivm.<br /><br />I am as millenial (and a tortured student of economics) see the change here myself where many people of my age change their views.<br /><br />But the problem economically is that in israel most of the people are like peter hitchens.<br /><br />They support social democratic policies without even understand what keyensianism is so sadly the media always brainwash people with deficit hawkary and another neoliberal propaganda.<br /><br />For example we have continous deflation for 2 years and a slump in exports (israel is export led growth economy) and the media always braging about how we should open our agriculture sector for free trade and how we should "increase productivity" (aka lower corporate taxes) no mention of full emploent and deficit spending at all.<br /><br />So the problem here is that the people here captured in TINA mentality led by famous (by israel standards) hardcore new classical professor omer moav (he is professor in warwick university btw).<br /><br />To be honest i felt that neoclassical economics is fishy but before i saw your blog for example i never even knew what is post keynesianism about so thank you for that.<br /><br />But its just shows the problem and the problem is that the media make people ignorant about economic alternative to neoclassical economics.disequilibriumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09760922141392402211noreply@blogger.com