tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post7922267821090955897..comments2024-03-28T17:08:15.784-07:00Comments on Social Democracy for the 21st Century: A Realist Alternative to the Modern Left: European Elections to WatchLord Keyneshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.comBlogger74125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-42668867568865847532016-12-10T02:18:39.053-08:002016-12-10T02:18:39.053-08:00Rudy will not be part of the administration.
Yet ...<i>Rudy will not be part of the administration. <br />Yet another Kevin bogosity bites the dust</i><br /><br />Dream on Ken. As long as he was under consideration, my mentioning it is anything <i>but</i> bogus until a decision is made.<br /><br /><i>Romney is no neocon</i><br /><br />So? A Mormon "people pleaser" & arse kisser is every bit as good as one, depending on the arses that need kissed. Supposedly the younger Bush wasn't either, remember?<br /><br />Any more childish games of one-upmanship you'd like to play?<br /><br />Because I'd hate for you to step in it any further and embarrass yourself:<br /><br />http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/11/28/mad-dog-on-the-loose-the-blood-soaked-career-of-general-james-mattisKevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11890229869783893118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-44196559167478664962016-12-09T18:36:24.249-08:002016-12-09T18:36:24.249-08:00Rudy will not be part of the administration.
Yet ...Rudy will not be part of the administration. <br />Yet another Kevin bogosity bites the dust. <br /><br />Romney is no neocon. Get a grip. Ken Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12976919713907046171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-78391311921297042522016-12-07T15:07:08.302-08:002016-12-07T15:07:08.302-08:00No American president -- whether Democratic or Rep...<i>No American president -- whether Democratic or Republican or probably even of the Green party -- could pardon Snowden</i><br /><br />You neglected to note the Tweet made by the POTUS-elect on Mr. Snowden. That should be enough to tell you he's closer to McCain than Ron Paul or Jill Stein on the question of what to do about the Whistle-blower.<br /><br />And actually, you're wrong factually speaking:<br /><br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_pardoned_or_granted_clemency_by_the_President_of_the_United_States#Woodrow_Wilson<br /><br />"Frederick Krafft – convicted for alleged violation of the Espionage Act. Only person convicted under this law to receive a full executive pardon."<br /><br /><i>This doesn't prove Trump is taking his policy advice from neocons</i><br /><br />Also factually wrong:<br /><br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Pompeo#National_securityKevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11890229869783893118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-50428462047745042692016-12-07T13:42:17.426-08:002016-12-07T13:42:17.426-08:00But why should ordinary people in America or Europ...<i>But why should ordinary people in America or Europe have to suffer cultural and demographic suicide just to indulge your mentally-ill fantasies about multiculturalism, when they don't want such immigration? Why should their countries have to be made increasingly unsafe for women or subject to more and more violent Islamist extremism</i><br /><br />The US ain't suffering from any such thing. <br /><br />You do realize that Nations, Cultures, People Groups, etc. are a temporary thing, right?<br /><br />People in sovereign nations have a right to paddle their own boats, I have no quarrels with that. I give Islamic countries and the European White Guy who hates foreigners the same courtesy, however. Whether I think such people are enlightened and living in the 21st Century is another matter.Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11890229869783893118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-6945256852675432602016-12-07T09:45:56.047-08:002016-12-07T09:45:56.047-08:00And notice how you can't even give me an hones...And notice how you can't even give me an honest answer to this question I posed to you above, Kevin:<br /><br /><i>"Interesting. So you're saying that if we brought in 200 million people into the US who think gays should be killed for being gays, you'd support this?"</i>Lord Keyneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-11505378481147007132016-12-07T09:41:51.059-08:002016-12-07T09:41:51.059-08:00No American president -- whether Democratic or Rep...No American president -- whether Democratic or Republican or probably even of the Green party -- could pardon Snowden, as the intelligence agencies would be in an outroar and the political opposition would be huge.<br /><br />This doesn't prove Trump is taking his policy advice from neocons.Lord Keyneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-83992227950687981252016-12-07T09:39:39.974-08:002016-12-07T09:39:39.974-08:00Yes, the 2003 invasion of Iraq was a crime against...Yes, the 2003 invasion of Iraq was a crime against international law and a horrendous moral outrage, for which the US government leadership at that time should be tried in a fair court of law. <br /><br />But why should ordinary people in America or Europe have to suffer cultural and demographic suicide just to indulge your mentally-ill fantasies about multiculturalism, when they don't want such immigration? Why should their countries have to be made increasingly unsafe for women or subject to more and more violent Islamist extremism?Lord Keyneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-33175854247097713782016-12-07T07:07:37.216-08:002016-12-07T07:07:37.216-08:00Exactly what I've been trying to say:
https:/...Exactly what I've been trying to say:<br /><br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_View_(U.S._TV_series)#O.27Donnell.2FHasselbeck_argument<br /><br />"O'Donnell consistently brought up recent news about the war in Iraq, and criticized the US media for its lack of coverage on the Bush administration's actions and policies. On May 17, 2007, O'Donnell rhetorically asked, "655,000 Iraqi civilians dead. <b>Who are the terrorists?</b> If you were in Iraq and another country, the United States, the richest in the world, invaded your country and killed 655,000 of your citizens, what would you call us?""<br /><br /><b>Who are the terrorists</b>, indeed.Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11890229869783893118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-70055319817974233512016-12-06T15:50:31.227-08:002016-12-06T15:50:31.227-08:00Yes, Daniel is right. Not just Kevin. I saw a lot ...Yes, Daniel is right. Not just Kevin. I saw a lot of people playing dumb this election. They fancy themselves the smart ones too. Ken Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12976919713907046171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-20341193258560286422016-12-06T14:30:30.516-08:002016-12-06T14:30:30.516-08:00Snowden talks about his chances under Trump, who h...Snowden talks about his chances under Trump, who has been called a "traitor" by the POTUS-elect. And Trump's pick for CIA-director has called Snowden a "liar" and a "traitor":<br /><br />https://youtu.be/F06n348V0f8<br /><br />But no, Trump ain't influenced by Neocons. Keep tellin' yourself that.Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11890229869783893118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-78756038674110479072016-12-06T06:18:37.664-08:002016-12-06T06:18:37.664-08:00You know, I'm pretty certain the things I'...You know, I'm pretty certain the things I've been saying is clear as a bell to anyone with an open mind enough to attempt to understand. I think someone driven by emotion and fear-clouded moorings is not in much of a place to grasp the kernels of truth therein. Not to mention being ignorant of Spiritual truths.<br /><br />You can't grasp the Spiritual by testing it under a microscope like an experiment. It must be revealed to you. And that takes a willing an open heart the comes from a place of realizing I'm just as bad a sinner as the next guy. <br /><br />But there's the rub isn't it? You guys absolutely do not think in those terms. I've brought this up here before and was told "Oh sure, there is such a thing as a worse sinner. There is, there is, there is!"<br /><br />The other thing I am convicted of is that there is no need to repay evil for evil, and I know God will honor my attempts to do the right thing. Pity you folks can't enjoy that same assurance.<br /><br />What you guys do is fall back on with your one-sized fits all epithets ("Regressive!"Identity!") when you can't handle someone of a different take on these things. You aren't even attempting to understand where I'm coming from. You see things in extreme blacks & whites, and you can't understand how I can see dark, dirty, dingy greys where you think it should be so clear.<br /><br />But even putting all of "religious" stuff aside, it boils down to this: I'm most happy to revise my opinion on something when solid evidence is shown to the contrary. You guys - meaning LK & Ken, have not shown me one thing that a reasonable person couldn't raise several objections to. Or that truly addressed the points I was making. <br /><br />An example is this use of Evangelicals voting for Trump in trying to prove "See, those people aren't hawkish nationalist no-necks! They voted for Trump. They must be so peaceful!" Try that one on anyone who's studied any level of Sociology focused on Christians. And be prepared to be laughed out of the place. But even a 5th grader could grasp that you can't use 2016 politics to speak to everything that ever happened in every other election year. So simple!<br /><br />Not to mention that anyone with a nose for research can come up with pretty solid observations made by many pundits that Trump's admin picks tend to cast doubt on most if not all of his pre-election rhetoric.<br /><br />And then Ken with his "See, one guy low on the totem pole said 'No Registry!'" It must be so! Of course, that doesn't hold when I point out that Pence is a free-trader from Hell, now does it? Of course not. Doesn't suit your argumentative purposes.<br /><br />If you guys would at least try to "shoot me down in flames" with relevant information, that'd be different. But as it is, I can apply basic rules of Inductive Logic to your claims, and make them look like a pop can after a hot summer night date with a steamroller.<br /><br />Sorry to break it you y'all buncha wise, all-knowing pundits, but there are highly intelligent and well verse people that can disagree with the things you've gone on about here today. Imagine that! Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11890229869783893118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-58894972296274122272016-12-06T04:36:36.214-08:002016-12-06T04:36:36.214-08:00LK Ken B
guys i gave up on argue with kevin long t...LK Ken B<br />guys i gave up on argue with kevin long time ago.<br /><br />since he is using the favourite tactic of any identity politics champion (no matter of conservative or democrat) to play a dummy about common sense politicallyincorrect issues and when you are saying it loud he will use in order to race/religious etc baiting you.<br /><br />disequilibriumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09760922141392402211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-79514780277498291622016-12-05T14:26:25.582-08:002016-12-05T14:26:25.582-08:00So you're saying your previous slagging off ab...<i>So you're saying your previous slagging off about Christian fundamentalists (few of whom vote Democratic) all being evil warmongers turns out to be horsesh*t?</i><br /><br />No, that doesn't logically follow at all. But I'll let you think that if it makes you feel better :DKevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11890229869783893118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-70321925631359924822016-12-05T14:24:10.494-08:002016-12-05T14:24:10.494-08:00That wasn't your argument, you dishonest twat....<i>That wasn't your argument, you dishonest twat. You argued that Republicans and US Christian fundamentals are all or mostly all evil bloodcrazed war hawks.</i><br /><br />No, my argument has been that there are such people - and those mostly voted GOP. Therefore to be consistent, you should persecute them as well. It wasn't me who tagged a whole group of people with a broad brush. You're thinking of your own points, here.<br /><br /><i>Your theory just got shot down in flames.</i><br /><br />I had the same argument with Mr. Marmur on your blog, and I'll tell you the same thing I told him: White Evangelical Christians 1980 - 2008 is not necessarily synonymous with the same constituency via 2012 until now. Lots has changed. There was the visibility of the Sojouners crowd and the rise of Emergent Christianity, for starters. And as I told DM, a lot of the more conservative ones may be rallying around Trump to avoid Clinton. Big deal, so did a lot of Bernie Sanders supporters. <br /><br />My theories look pretty flame resistant, AFAICS ;-) Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11890229869783893118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-62312240206865754732016-12-05T14:15:19.514-08:002016-12-05T14:15:19.514-08:00Interesting, Kevin.
So you're saying your pr...Interesting, Kevin. <br /><br />So you're saying your previous slagging off about Christian fundamentalists (few of whom vote Democratic) all being evil warmongers turns out to be horsesh*t?Lord Keyneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-40284786854334358502016-12-05T14:12:02.794-08:002016-12-05T14:12:02.794-08:00"But thanks for proving [once again] that we ...<i>"But thanks for proving [once again] that we need not take Trump's better stated intentions for granted."</i><br /><br />That wasn't your argument, you dishonest twat. You argued that Republicans and US Christian fundamentals are all or mostly all evil bloodcrazed war hawks.<br /><br />Yet Trump said he wanted less intervention, peace with Russia and no more national building wars. He won a big majority of the evangelical vote: <br /><br />https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/11/09/exit-polls-show-white-evangelicals-voted-overwhelmingly-for-donald-trump/?utm_term=.7d8bb315913f<br /><br />Your theory just got shot down in flames.<br />Lord Keyneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-48619972893094233282016-12-05T14:11:39.235-08:002016-12-05T14:11:39.235-08:00So logically shouldn't Republicans have abando...<i>So logically shouldn't Republicans have abandoned him in 2000, if they were all evil war hawks</i><br /><br />Where did I make any Dem/GOP connection to this? There are plenty of assholes who are registered Independent & Democrat, too. Both parties are two cheeks on the same ass and both stink as far as I'm concerned.Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11890229869783893118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-74868091241124885882016-12-05T14:09:07.134-08:002016-12-05T14:09:07.134-08:00Romney and Ruby may have staffed themselves with n...<i>Romney and Ruby may have staffed themselves with neocons</i><br /><br />And you just proved to me that who someone staffs themselves with will carry the day. Which is what happened to Bush.<br /><br />I think you are grasping at straws trying to downplay Romney & Rudy, fyi. I don't think you can prove that either. In fact, your Bush video would seem to show otherwise.Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11890229869783893118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-79941078106400418572016-12-05T14:07:17.855-08:002016-12-05T14:07:17.855-08:00Hahaha... Bush lost the popular vote in 2000, owin...Hahaha... Bush lost the popular vote in 2000, owing to Democratic voters, but Republicans voted for him. So logically shouldn't Republicans have abandoned him in 2000, if they were all evil war hawks?Lord Keyneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-47417559286851702962016-12-05T14:04:47.290-08:002016-12-05T14:04:47.290-08:00Bush junior ran in 2000 on a "humble" fo...<i>Bush junior ran in 2000 on a "humble" foreign policy</i><br /><br />Ummmm... Bush LOST the popular vote running on that platform in 2000. He won by about 3% in 2004 after his true intentions were known. Gee, I wonder where he picked up that support?<br /><br />But thanks for proving [once again] that we need not take Trump's better stated intentions for granted.Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11890229869783893118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-1816223513083082502016-12-05T14:03:25.469-08:002016-12-05T14:03:25.469-08:00Here is the George W. Bush Republicans voted for i...Here is the George W. Bush Republicans voted for in 2000:<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9SOVzMV2bc Lord Keyneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-81347863241058652342016-12-05T14:01:28.276-08:002016-12-05T14:01:28.276-08:00Yes, Romney and Ruby may have staffed themselves w...Yes, Romney and Ruby may have staffed themselves with neocons, because of the influence of neocons in the party, but they were not hardcore neocons themselves. You are too stupid to understand the difference.Lord Keyneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-63111822870203427792016-12-05T13:59:00.648-08:002016-12-05T13:59:00.648-08:00Romney and Rudy G are not hardcore neocons
http:/...<i>Romney and Rudy G are not hardcore neocons</i><br /><br />http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Joe-Biden-Laughing-Shaking-his-Head.gif<br /><br />Rudy G:<br /><br />http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/16/nyregion/rudolph-giuliani-transition-secretary-of-state.html<br /><br />http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/08/12/neocon-podhoretz-giuliani_n_60087.html<br /><br />http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/giuliani_rudy<br /><br />http://prospect.org/article/rudy-giuliani-uber-neocon<br /><br />http://www.taylormarsh.com/2016/11/neocon-john-bolton-rudy-giuliani-scary-state-choices <br /><br />Romney:<br /><br />https://www.thenation.com/article/mitt-romneys-neocon-war-cabinet<br /><br />http://mondoweiss.net/2016/03/romney-echoes-neocons-trump-will-lead-u-s-into-the-abyss<br /><br />https://mic.com/articles/11219/mitt-romney-foreign-policy-team-17-of-24-advisors-are-bush-neocons#.2ZkOLGBdJ<br /><br />Why do you make me embarrass you like that, LK? Quit whilst you are behind.Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11890229869783893118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-82645946301159931142016-12-05T13:55:46.151-08:002016-12-05T13:55:46.151-08:00Bush junior ran in 2000 on a "humble" fo...Bush junior ran in 2000 on a "humble" foreign policy, and many Republicans were actually opposed to Clinton's interventions and wished for a more isolationist foreign policy. The hope for a less violent and less interventionist foreign policy is also what made Trump popular amongst Republicans, as against war hawks like Jeb and Rubio.<br /><br />Stop f*cking lying, dickwad. Lord Keyneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-91450339215442167272016-12-05T13:52:47.651-08:002016-12-05T13:52:47.651-08:00Interesting. So you're saying that if we broug...Interesting. So you're saying that if we brought in 200 million people into the US who think gays should be killed for being gays, you'd support this?Lord Keyneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.com