tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post629894712690683293..comments2024-03-17T00:23:24.896-07:00Comments on Social Democracy for the 21st Century: A Realist Alternative to the Modern Left: The Alt Right: A Quick OverviewLord Keyneshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-33660623849595618422016-09-01T06:18:54.057-07:002016-09-01T06:18:54.057-07:00And yet I have heard Mike Enoch on Red Ice say he ...And yet I have heard Mike Enoch on Red Ice say he wants a broadly libertarian economics for his ideal Alt Right society.<br /><br />Care to comment on this?<br />Lord Keyneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-79156211616058017242016-09-01T06:14:34.702-07:002016-09-01T06:14:34.702-07:00Bob Roddis@August 31, 2016 at 6:44 PM
A much more...Bob Roddis@August 31, 2016 at 6:44 PM<br /><br />A much more interesting question is whether you can define what a market clearing price is, Mr F*cking Idiot.Lord Keyneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-24990759973171761452016-08-31T18:44:03.999-07:002016-08-31T18:44:03.999-07:00LK, I wonder if this is the same insightful Septeu...LK, I wonder if this is the same insightful Septeus7 once who said this:<br /><br /><i>The Austrian school denies the existence of human beings with their apriori assumptions about human action which deny the possibility of human creativity which of course is man's most defining characteristic. <br /><br />The Austrian school also denies the existence of accounting.</i><br /><br />http://tinyurl.com/8a3tbxl<br /><br />That’s all true, of course, even though we try to keep it very secret and we never tell it to outsiders. <br />Bob Roddishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17263804608074597937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-32320401373729562502016-08-30T12:38:58.348-07:002016-08-30T12:38:58.348-07:00millenial woes (((i am))) not native english speak...millenial woes (((i am))) not native english speaker but i will not deny a good heatlhy debate if you like?disequilibriumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09760922141392402211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-56592376086441069542016-08-30T12:27:40.566-07:002016-08-30T12:27:40.566-07:00Maybe. I'm on Twitter if you want debate:
htt...Maybe. I'm on Twitter if you want debate:<br /><br />https://twitter.com/Lord_Keynes2Lord Keyneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-31752895303263357902016-08-30T12:15:07.341-07:002016-08-30T12:15:07.341-07:00To the writer of this article: I invite you to deb...To the writer of this article: I invite you to debate me on my channel.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02363755940376585067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-54969360029648330632016-08-30T09:23:41.302-07:002016-08-30T09:23:41.302-07:00An intellectual connection between libertarianism ...An intellectual connection between libertarianism and fascism is Ayn Rand through her Nietzschean elitism. <br /><br />Also, there is clearly a case against democracy from a libertarian perspective, without it having to turn into the Alt Right.<br /><br />http://againstpolitics.com/2012/01/11/against-politics-15-book-recommendations/<br /><br />10. Bryan Caplan – The Myth of the Rational Voter: Why Democracies Choose Bad Policies<br /><br />"In The Myth of the Rational Voter economist Bryan Caplan employs economic reasoning and empirical evidence to explain why democracy leads to poor public policy. The average voter has a strong incentive to be rationally irrational about politics and the economic ignorance of elected politicians is evidence of this. This book provides no less than the microfoundations of political failure. Also recommended is Randall Holcombe’s From Liberty to Democracy: The Transformation of American Government. Holcombe uses a public choice perspective to show how the rise of democracy leads to a decline of liberty."vizorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11998940310438354605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-84833420193149879832016-08-30T08:56:44.383-07:002016-08-30T08:56:44.383-07:00People with a lot of time on their hands.People with a lot of time on their hands.Lord Keyneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-57939454977056703482016-08-30T08:54:50.844-07:002016-08-30T08:54:50.844-07:00And what were you before you were Alt Right?And what were you before you were Alt Right?Lord Keyneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-80073200653793042122016-08-30T08:53:30.018-07:002016-08-30T08:53:30.018-07:00"As stated above the only libertarian they li...<i>"As stated above the only libertarian they like is the non-Jewish Hans-Hermann Hoppe"</i><br /><br />This is B.S. I have heard Alt Righters say they still like the economics of Rothbard or Ron Paul or Mises or other Austrian economists, e.g., Mike EnochLord Keyneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-57501797396858234032016-08-30T08:51:47.883-07:002016-08-30T08:51:47.883-07:00I don't doubt the insanity of cultural leftism...I don't doubt the insanity of cultural leftism and SJWism and PC culture has helped to create the Alt Right.Lord Keyneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-7693609862456116472016-08-30T08:50:33.968-07:002016-08-30T08:50:33.968-07:00Breitbart? Breitbart was a Glenn Beck-style conser...Breitbart? Breitbart was a Glenn Beck-style conservative site before Trump.<br /><br />With Trump, it has become a populist conservative site, civic nationalist, hostile to illegal immigration, increasingly hostile to free trade and much of what Trump is talking about. Lord Keyneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-23126327049418382192016-08-30T07:28:04.160-07:002016-08-30T07:28:04.160-07:00Alt rightist here. I don't have much to contri...Alt rightist here. I don't have much to contribute to the conversation at the moment, but I felt compelled to say that the libertarian aspects of the alt right seem greatly exaggerated. It is true that a number of alt right types are former libertarians, or retain some libertarian ideas, but in my experience it simply isn't something that features prominently in the movement (it is certainly eclipsed by other issues). What animates the alt right is a romantic and idealistic vision, not an economic one.Armonde Delacroixhttp://therightstuff.biznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-36826269771637124482016-08-29T17:53:58.948-07:002016-08-29T17:53:58.948-07:00Just a little question. If Bretibart it's (was...Just a little question. If Bretibart it's (wasn't) really Alt-Right, then what it is (was before Clinton speech)? <br /><br />They seem to fit nowhere in any political spectra!Mariosonic7878https://www.blogger.com/profile/15698749136414051670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-41897530688649268592016-08-29T16:04:52.592-07:002016-08-29T16:04:52.592-07:00Was the lack of triple parenthesis around (((Eisen...Was the lack of triple parenthesis around (((Eisenhower))) a typo? His administration, particularly (((John Foster Dulles))) at the state department, was appreciably influenced by the (((American Council For Judaism))).SHNnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-16492155254836410842016-08-29T14:50:48.205-07:002016-08-29T14:50:48.205-07:00Former alt righter here. I am, for the most part,...Former alt righter here. I am, for the most part, sympathetic to many of these people. What motivates them is the sense of isolation, alienation, and hopelessness that is pervasive everywhere neoliberalism rules. <br /><br />That, and the constant accusations of racism, sexism, and homophobia against people who really have no real power, was bound to make certain people (myself included) embrace it. <br /><br />I love this site because this is really the one place where the truth gets stated. <br /><br />We would all have a much higher standard of living, and a world much closer to what typical liberal arts progressives wanted. Political correctness has done nothing positive. Serge_Tomikohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02073364884400341461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-19308837387630255452016-08-29T14:44:53.522-07:002016-08-29T14:44:53.522-07:00Part 2:
Second, your so-called "trolling&qu...Part 2: <br /><br />Second, your so-called "trolling" of the AltRight with you pathetic idea what we are all in love with Uncle Milton and Murray Rothbard. You really think this doesn't come up on literally every single economics post on /pol/? <br /><br />As stated above the only libertarian they like is the non-Jewish Hans-Hermann Hoppe and I have trying to purge that libertarian/Southern baggage from the movement.<br /><br />The favorite economist of the alt by is Gottfried Feder a proto-Keynesian NS from the German Nationalist School.<br /><br />The hard core of the Alt-Right likes the Nationalist economist of the American School, the German Historical School and more modern Asian Tigerl eaders like Lee Kuan Yew. <br /><br />The primary economic program concern of the Alt-Right is the absolution of usury regarding National Budgets. They refer to the Mefo-Bills the National Socialist end run around the Rothchild/British Banking Cartel extorting of Germany after WWI. <br /><br />I suppose you call this a "Anti-Semetic Conspiracy theory" and the treaty of Vienna as perfectly fair and reasonable. <br /><br />The reason I left the idea "democratic socialism" for Strasserism is because after BLM shit on Bernie Sanders the left (including this blog) doubled down the narrative that this was result blacks being in a lower classes rather than the obvious racial reason.<br /><br />You simply had to be twitter to understand that class wasn't the issue at all. It purely a racial issue and the fact that non-whites fundamentally hate white people on a biological level. You have live the experience to understand and you upper middle class leftist cannot understand why democratic socially is totally impossible with multi-racialism. <br /><br />The Left simple refuse to believe other than "economic class" drive history and social conflict. You are simply wrong. Race and Ethnicity i.e. the folkish extension of family relations to the broader society is what drives history.<br /><br />The leftist views denies the existence and importance family entirely as a concept. You substitute the narrative of State and class, weak versus strong, oppressed and oppressor as the be all and end all of human social relations and it is pitiful.<br /><br /> Families do not exist to the left and thus they understand nothing of how real societies can with hierarchies without being a neatly weak versus strong narrativeSepteus7https://www.blogger.com/profile/00337900484297284276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-86017701913081355752016-08-29T14:44:18.769-07:002016-08-29T14:44:18.769-07:00As a convert to the Alt-Right, I believe this the ...As a convert to the Alt-Right, I believe this the best review of the "movement" so far except for two points.<br /><br />First, the claim that we anti-semitic rather than counter-semitic. You failed to mention the favorite author of the Alt-Right on the JQ i.e. Kevin B. MacDonald.<br /><br />The problem with Jews is very simple for you leftist biology denialist. <br /><br />Jews are an intelligent and ambitious people who desire to lead every society in which they find themselves. <br /><br /> As a result, they created a "Culture of Critique" within Jewish society for their host culture society as means of tearing down the native elites and traditions and installing themselves into those positions until they get purged or destroy their host societies. <br /><br />It is not a evil worldwide"conspiracy" but trait of Jewish culture toward the "Goyim."<br /><br />It is called the "Law of Competitive Exclusion" but the AltRight/Darwinian Right says this biological principle of population biology doesn't stop with animals but occurs between the ethnic/racial groups competing for social dominance. <br /><br />You don't have room at the top for a nativist white elite in Western Civilization and a Jewish elite and thus there is going to be conflict between our peoples.<br /><br />If you deny this you are essentially a creationist regarding human ethnic/racial conflict. You simply have to look at the change in the demographics of the Forbes 400 list from the 1990s to today and you see that whites haves drop from 75%+ to less than 40% in favor the Jewish elites who have done nothing but gain after every economical crisis/shock.<br /><br />The left fails understand politics because or class conflict idea as the driver rather the proper understanding of history as "elites versus elites." <br />Septeus7https://www.blogger.com/profile/00337900484297284276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-6643540503663386512016-08-29T14:30:56.177-07:002016-08-29T14:30:56.177-07:00"while some of the members of the Alt-Right w..."while some of the members of the Alt-Right who put more emphasis on human biodiversity (HBD) might say that poor white people are genetically inferior and thus deserve their fate."<br /><br />Charles Murray comes to mindLukahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07277134451848581852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-76807219839168494992016-08-29T14:29:19.555-07:002016-08-29T14:29:19.555-07:00Its sort of like how Metapedia(nazi wikipedia) acc...Its sort of like how Metapedia(nazi wikipedia) accuses Conservapedia(conservative wikipedia) of being "cultural Marxists" for talking about racism. While Conservapedia believe that Hitler was a far-left socialist and that everything statists is leftist, and that everything leftists is bad, except of course government programs and laws Conservaprdia supports.Lukahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07277134451848581852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-78152437758830822332016-08-29T14:26:09.629-07:002016-08-29T14:26:09.629-07:00In the end, the right has a deep seated hatred of ...In the end, the right has a deep seated hatred of communism and Marxism. That hatred of the left binds them. Lukahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07277134451848581852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-60053166653296935942016-08-29T14:23:16.048-07:002016-08-29T14:23:16.048-07:00The website "Daily Stormer" claims to be...The website "Daily Stormer" claims to be the web's largest alt-right website. They are openly supportive of Neo-fascistic ideas and have sections on things like "the Jewish problem" and the "race war". The have supported Trump, feature David Duke, and one glance at the comment section should tell you how there heroes are(Hitler, Pinochet, Putin, Franco and a whole host of right wing strong men). <br /><br />The alt right seems to be the neglected fringes of the western worlds right wing. Where else can neo-reactionaries, monarchists, Christian theologians, paleoconservatives, white nationalists, national socialists, and ancaps all come together to discuss the pressing issues of white genocide and the globalist Marxist takeover? The only people who aren't allowed are those nasty neocons who are seen as a bunch of ex-Trotskiest Jews whose globalist ambitions are just as bad as anything on the left. Moderate conservatives are generally shunned as well. <br /><br />What does seem to unite them is "race realism/racialism" and general crankery. Central banking, global warming, vaccination, public education, and the media are frequent topics of discussion. They are all generally speaking right wing populates and nationalists in their beliefs. Most seem to play around with the race science of people like J. Philippe Rushton. His most interesting theories were that genital size had an inverse correlation with intelligence. East Asian males and females, he believed, had on average, smaller external genitalia but larger cranial capacity, IQ's, and a high preference time. On the other end of the spectrum there are sub-sharan Africana who have large external genitals but smaller brains, low presence time, and small IQ's. <br /><br />Ancaps like Stefan Molyneaux and Hans Hermann Hoppe have referenced racial science as have National Socialists who advocate pretty massive government intervention. <br /><br />How long can this coalition of right wing misfits stick together? I imagine at some point the general insanity of the moment will cause it to friction. Libertianrsgn will accuse the Fascists of being economic leftists and statists. The Fascists will call the Ancaps cucks. People will be accused of being "controlled opposition" and ideological purity tests combined with paranoid conspiracies will prevent the movement from going anywhere. Lukahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07277134451848581852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-40332248766983381442016-08-29T10:43:08.026-07:002016-08-29T10:43:08.026-07:00Also, that Salon article is clear, simple, and idi...Also, that Salon article is clear, simple, and idiotic. There's a reason the population of Texas has grown faster than that of CA and NY combined since 2010, something Lind's uncritical readers will never be able to understand.pithomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13997094225496018110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-74577882300180330762016-08-29T10:28:54.827-07:002016-08-29T10:28:54.827-07:00The U.S. South was also the biggest support base o...The U.S. South was also the biggest support base of the 16th Amendment. Look at the 1924 Democratic platform, when the Democratic Party was almost exclusively limited to the South, and only won the former Confederate states (plus Oklahoma). It's not right-wing.<br /><br />Likewise, the original reaction against the (((New Deal))) came from the Great Plains, not the South. Nevertheless, by the late 1940s, southern legislators, even those who had overwhelmingly supported such socialistic programs as the TVA were condemned by (((labor unions))) for supporting right-to-work laws (first developed in then-Democratic Arkansas) and other anti-union measures.<br /><br />The same Deep Southerners (though not Texans or Arkansans) who had overwhelmingly voted for FDR in 1944 overwhelmingly voted for the ideologically far-distant (((Goldwater))) 20 years later, purely due to the race issue. The entire Deep South (and much of the shallow South) still went for Stevenson in 1952, though South Carolina did so by two points in 1952. The first Republican to win the White vote in any Deep Southern state was Eisenhower in 1956.<br /><br />In short, southern economic views have been historically complicated. Texas never had as much anti-Black voting as the Deep South (cf, 1928), but in 2012, only 19% of Whites there voted for Obama -the same percentage as in much more traditionally racist Georgia.pithomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13997094225496018110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-35046290563181083862016-08-29T08:49:19.645-07:002016-08-29T08:49:19.645-07:00The triple parenthesis thing is hilarious. What so...The triple parenthesis thing is hilarious. What sort of mind sits around thinking such stuff up in the first place? Ken Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12976919713907046171noreply@blogger.com