tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post1309578397481838996..comments2024-03-17T00:23:24.896-07:00Comments on Social Democracy for the 21st Century: A Realist Alternative to the Modern Left: Sick of the Neoliberal Left and Regressive Left?Lord Keyneshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-75387667215541942952016-10-26T05:56:45.725-07:002016-10-26T05:56:45.725-07:00Thank you, you have hit the nail on the head and i...Thank you, you have hit the nail on the head and it’s a problem that is not going to go away. The UK is controlled by an elite that is totally disconnected from the man in the street who has not gained from E U membership. Our education system has been dumbed down own over the years and we have been given "bread and games" to keep us quiet while the elite have become more European than British. By nature, I am not far left or far right, it is my belief that all men are equal regardless of race, creed or colour and should only be judged by their character. I do believe in democracy and Lincolns words “government of the people, by the people for the people” are my credo. That is why I voted against the elite and continued membership of the undemocratic E U.<br />The economy will take a hit but it is worth it, I have survived 25% inflation, 3 million unemployed, power strikes and three day weeks in the past and we will get over it again. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-82084428622952046222016-07-20T03:18:17.986-07:002016-07-20T03:18:17.986-07:00But the Bernie Bro socialism would be multi-racial...But the Bernie Bro socialism would be multi-racial.Lord Keyneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-78340047948870477532016-07-20T00:28:27.698-07:002016-07-20T00:28:27.698-07:00I would answer YES to all your questions but one :...I would answer YES to all your questions but one : point 11. I really think that terror attacks don't have much to do with any religion. Half mad people might embed their violent drives with religious words. But I think we must rather analyse it as a pathology just like drugs, binge drinking, suicide, hard hooliganism, rape etc.<br />And actually (I think on that point you would agree) full-employment is the best cure at hand. I don't claim it would stop all violence as to now, but in the long run it's the only way to have a more decent, civilized society.<br />Any violent person can put an "-ism" on his / her desire to frighten, bully and even kill others and see it as morally sound. Is it delusion or simply bad faith I do not know. But what matters is the way people really live, the way their real lives made them, not the BS they repeat because it sounds great and make them look better than they are.<br /><br />GLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04372485857847843352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-18209810451145437542016-07-19T06:21:24.114-07:002016-07-19T06:21:24.114-07:00Bro-socialism. It properly identifies this ideolog...Bro-socialism. It properly identifies this ideology for white dudes, and implies a contempt for intersectionality (or the idea that individuals do not fit neatly into one category). Rather contemptuous of working class people, actually.Onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08326816833936092845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-20588027041523827302016-07-18T10:13:46.420-07:002016-07-18T10:13:46.420-07:00On an unrelated subject, have a look at the conser...On an unrelated subject, have a look at the conservatives promoting neo-eugenics:<br /><br />http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/04/the-return-of-eugenics/<br /><br />Read that article carefully: they are now blaming long-term unemployment on.. bad genetics. FFS, you couldn't make this stuff up.<br /><br />Also, what's proposed there is apparently going to be *state policy* in China:<br /><br />http://www.vice.com/read/chinas-taking-over-the-world-with-a-massive-genetic-engineering-programLord Keyneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-74292701278681233102016-07-18T08:23:29.589-07:002016-07-18T08:23:29.589-07:00Go for it. Good discussions to have.Go for it. Good discussions to have.TheIllusionisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17642837989235595346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-12996595544198770162016-07-18T08:17:42.656-07:002016-07-18T08:17:42.656-07:00Yah, there is something really and shockingly insi...Yah, there is something really and shockingly insightful about what you've just said here. <br /><br />Hope you don't mind if I post this comment and add my thoughts in a separate post.Lord Keyneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-92095275816333619612016-07-18T07:53:36.688-07:002016-07-18T07:53:36.688-07:00Here's an interesting something that I've ...Here's an interesting something that I've been talking about with people recently: maybe the cultural left is actually PART OF neoliberalism.<br /><br />I started thinking this after the Brexit debate. I hang around in London finance circles and what struck me was that the exact same rhetoric that was being used by the cultural left types on my Facebook feed was being used by the finance people. It was 100% identical. Right from the anti-democratic tone to the complaints about racism and all that.<br /><br />I think that both of these groups are actually the same people. They're sort of embodied in that person who you actually see an awful lot: the Guardian reader who voted Thatcher/Major/Blair/Cameron. There are literally tons of these people.<br /><br />They care about the 'environment'. They want open borders and free trade (although they'll buy fair trade coffee to boost their egos). They strongly dislike high taxes - especially when they are at the stage in their careers (aged 35+) when those higher tax rates impact them. They dislike poor people and think that anyone who works for a living is a racist. But they generally support welfare handouts much in the same way as Victorian snobs supported soup kitchens; so long as the poor stay poor and exercise no social control they make nice pets.<br /><br />Maybe this is the key. Maybe we're wrong to think about the 'contradiction' between cultural leftism and leftism. Maybe cultural leftism is actually the IDEOLOGY OF NEOLIBERALISM.<br /><br />There actually seems to be some limited recognition of this, although I don't think it goes far enough.<br /><br />https://www.versobooks.com/books/259-the-new-spirit-of-capitalismTheIllusionisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17642837989235595346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-52437391769284930742016-07-18T01:14:52.147-07:002016-07-18T01:14:52.147-07:00Are you even capable of seeing the benefits of inf...Are you even capable of seeing the benefits of infant industry protectionism for industrialising nations, or are you insanely opposed even to that?Lord Keyneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-11401427995349760622016-07-18T01:13:56.396-07:002016-07-18T01:13:56.396-07:00And yet STILL you want to tell me that my economic...And yet STILL you want to tell me that my economics is wrong?<br /><br />Still you push the horsecrap that free trade is wonderful and 100% right 100% of the time, and we should never have anything else?Lord Keyneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-66944745533966590212016-07-18T01:12:08.715-07:002016-07-18T01:12:08.715-07:00Of course he got a coherent answer.
As for anti-s...Of course he got a coherent answer.<br /><br />As for anti-science, the Realist Left would be vehemently opposed to all anti-science idiots on both the left and right.Lord Keyneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-57725197749965257172016-07-17T21:35:19.313-07:002016-07-17T21:35:19.313-07:00Notice KingKong did not get a coherent answer. Tak...Notice KingKong did not get a coherent answer. Take for example "hatred of science ". LK means on evolution but forgets left wing anti science. Examples: denial that race is meaningful, denial that cultures can be dysfunctional, anti vaccination, denial of evolutionary psychology. These are much more marked on the left than the right. Ken Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12976919713907046171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-50766310998134246782016-07-17T21:28:14.176-07:002016-07-17T21:28:14.176-07:00Since my industry --software-- has been hit very h...Since my industry --software-- has been hit very hard by off shoring and lower wage imports that's a strikingly backwards bit of invective LK. Ken Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12976919713907046171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-16070498874965429212016-07-17T14:10:29.871-07:002016-07-17T14:10:29.871-07:00I break with (3) & (11) on humanitarian ground...I break with (3) & (11) on humanitarian grounds. I can summarize it up by saying that I think all ideologies are imperfect and so are the people who implement them.<br /><br />The rest is fine AFAICS.Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11890229869783893118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-17888971698076278952016-07-17T13:01:27.604-07:002016-07-17T13:01:27.604-07:00They look rednecks as part of their group (since t...They look rednecks as part of their group (since they are white) so they judge them by this criterias.disequilibriumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09760922141392402211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-72200239165200623612016-07-17T12:59:52.006-07:002016-07-17T12:59:52.006-07:00Lk
Of course not but still even though new atheis...Lk<br /><br />Of course not but still even though new atheists can have good points,they are obssesed with anti religion like neoclassical economists with equilibrium<br /><br />And as you know obsession is never healthy even if this people have good points on some issues.disequilibriumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09760922141392402211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-12388738615682416622016-07-17T11:35:09.577-07:002016-07-17T11:35:09.577-07:00"Also, one of the most prominent forms of ...<i>"Also, one of the most prominent forms of 'religious obscurantism' today is that of the Liberal and New Atheist religions, which strongly discourage obtaining knowledge outside the arbitrary confines of "Science and Reason."</i><br /><br />Ahhh, I see. Should we then get our medicine, biology or engineering sciences from the Bible?<br /><br />Does the Bible tell us how to understand the genetics of and cures for cancer?Lord Keyneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-11587174516483969932016-07-17T11:32:31.146-07:002016-07-17T11:32:31.146-07:00Very good point. Third Wave Feminism seems unhinge...Very good point. Third Wave Feminism seems unhinged even to a growing number of women.Lord Keyneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-56999270166592612632016-07-17T08:58:57.637-07:002016-07-17T08:58:57.637-07:00Anonymous, while I'm sympathetic to the notion...Anonymous, while I'm sympathetic to the notion that modern ideologies are secular monotheism's, I'm not sure new atheism would qualify as a religion. Furthermore, one of the biggest flaws of the new atheist crowd is that they prefer their own naive intuitions about religion as a phenomenon to the conclusions of modern science. Hell, don't Dennett and Dawkins both harbor sympathies for pseudo-scientific explanations for how religious phenomenon emerged and continue to stick around? I'm thinking primarily of their "religion=bad memes" explanation.SHNnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-70503848562826145342016-07-17T08:29:36.250-07:002016-07-17T08:29:36.250-07:00One of the odd parts about the regressive left in ...One of the odd parts about the regressive left in the US is that they're in denial about the fact that they clearly don't accept all cultures as equal. When one reads the rather vicious and fairly accurate condemnations from the regressive left on the backwardness of southern white culture, it's pretty clear they don't think that culture is equal to others in this nation. I suspect it's a result of the over the top nature of political correctness that leads to this denial on the part of the American regressive left. This is made all the more amusing if one accepts Thomas Sowell's argument that "authentic black culture" in the US is primarily influenced (perhaps 'culturally appropriated'?) by poor southern redneck culture.SHNnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-55964262717771438682016-07-17T08:19:42.081-07:002016-07-17T08:19:42.081-07:00In fairness, LK, the 'cuck' slur may still...In fairness, LK, the 'cuck' slur may still be appropriate for an American nationalist left that embraces your ideas on economics and immigration. American blacks who descend from slaves have been in this country much longer than most, including many whites. If memory serves corrected, you've mentioned in at least one blog post this year that the US pursuing sensible policies on immigration and economics would help black American workers as much as white ones.SHNnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-64446912755750585022016-07-17T06:58:41.171-07:002016-07-17T06:58:41.171-07:00But social liberalism and individualism are ideolo...But social liberalism and individualism are ideologies that are responsible for the breakdown of families and communities.<br /><br />Also, one of the most prominent forms of 'religious obscurantism' today is that of the Liberal and New Atheist religions, which strongly discourage obtaining knowledge outside the arbitrary confines of "Science and Reason."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-56044844976069070122016-07-17T06:57:13.926-07:002016-07-17T06:57:13.926-07:00"Rational Left" and "Realist Left&q..."Rational Left" and "Realist Left" both have nice rings to it. Especially since Post-Keynesianism PE has some similarities with the IR "Realist" theory (PK acknowledges that while a crude and basic worldview, that mercantilism and protectionism has some merit to it. It also has an emphasis on relations with power and interests).<br /><br />Rational Left has a nice ring to it. Of course it can be a bit pretentious, particularly when it's also adopted by libertarian-like people who are foundationalized on non-sense. Libertarians are often very logical and syllogistic, but they're like Keynes said about ABCT: <br />"It is an extraordinary example of how, starting with a mistake, a remorseless logician can end up in bedlam…"<br /><br />Reform(ed) Left has its ring to it, since we're trying to reform it against the neo-liberals and SJWs. But in some regards "Renaissance" makes more sense, since we're trying to bring back the Old Left roots, not necessarily making something completely new.<br /><br />yes, Cuckservative is an lol term.Kainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09841689865415250256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-75046637191904272832016-07-17T02:25:44.588-07:002016-07-17T02:25:44.588-07:00P.S. in case you can't understand the joke her...P.S. in case you can't understand the joke here read up on the term "cuckservative":<br /><br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuckservative<br />Lord Keyneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6245381193993153721.post-10511667249871246422016-07-17T02:24:02.039-07:002016-07-17T02:24:02.039-07:00Or maybe we should call the neoliberal-regressive ...Or maybe we should call the neoliberal-regressive left the "Cucked Left". hahahaLord Keyneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06556863604205200159noreply@blogger.com